Well, who started it anyway? Not the other way around, it must have been a black guy. You should be able to find a copy of a record or a copy of a magazine from the early ’80s, and you can see the label’s name there. It’s either J Dilla or Jai Paul or just something that was in there.
But when I see that label, it really doesn’t really make any sense to me to say, you can’t listen to the record or you can’t listen to that magazine; it’s like, “What do you think I’m doing? What the fuck do you think I’m doing?”
But the labels were there, and it was good that people had access to those things. [I] had a friend that did ads for a bunch of record stores in Detroit and a couple of other parts of Detroit, and she used her mother’s name as a publisher name. So we would try to talk some people out of the ads so that we could do some things on our own, which of course was impossible to do. We were the “real” record store in Detroit and there were people running record stores that were much more influential than the record stores we ran.
So, you can’t really argue with that statement.
Right. When I see those labels, it really doesn’t make any sense to me to say, “You can’t listen to that record or you can’t listen to that magazine or you can’t listen to that thing.” It’s like, “What the fuck do you think I’m doing?” You know what I’m saying?
If hip hop existed in my own house, would I still listen to those records?
If hip hop existed in my house, would I still listen to those records?
Yeah, I wouldn’t pay a dime, man; it wouldn’t make any difference. I would just think, “That person is really good at what they do.” I would buy the record. I would take my kids to a show; I would go to see a show but there are other people in the house who are more important.
I was in college in the ’90s with this guy who was my friends that went to Harvard Business School. He always played me this article of a movie called In Time Out of Space with Richard Dreyfuss that he did that was like a documentary—all this stuff about science, but
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